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you couldn't carry a gun around in the town like dodge city is a good example. there were walls against that. if you are a cowboy that came in when you were supposed to go story or pistol if you had one. >> host: that doesn't fit with the way that most people think about it. >> guest: this is of course settlements out in the wild prairie, but they are like towns everywhere today. you need to call and order in the towns and it's hard to keep that up. >> host: even the shootout at the corral was a starting point. >> guest: clams and i think it was had been arrested or accused of violating below will ordinance and forbade carrying a local firearm. incidentally the understanding of what gun rights were for beginning to evolve in the 19th century, and in particular in the south in the early 19th century it was a big problem with duals the most famous one is aaron burr and hamilton, but this was fairly common but it was frowned upon and it can be prosecuted and he had to keep moving around to avoid being prosecuted, so but one of the names of people who insisted on the spot started to
or -- >> guest: dodge city is a good example. there were laws against that. you had to deposit your arms. if you were a cowboy who came in from the plains there was place where you were supposed to store your pistol if you had one. >> host: that didn't fit with the way most people think about it. >> guest: this is in settlements. knotted out in the wild prairie. but they're like towns everywhere today. you need a little law and order in towns and it's hard to keep that up if erv is pull ought a pistol. >> host: even the shootout at the okay corral was gun control. >> guest: it started because of ike had been arrested or accused of violating the local ordinance that forbids carrying a firearm openly around town. >> host: incidentally, the understanding of what gun rights were for began to evolve in the 19th century in particular in the south. in the earl 19th century there was a big problem with duels. duels between gentlemen, obviously the most famous one is aaron burr and alexander hamilton. but this is dueling was fairly common, about it was frowned upon, and could be prosecuted, and had to ke
a political battle we fought out but it's an urban area or city in the frontier trying to get its act together? >> guest: oddly, courts didn't have much to say except in state courts were for the most part are we going baystate and lower federal courts supported the right and saw it as not a rate that belonged to criminals are to be used for criminal purposes, but more as a write-in connection to civic duty. but the supreme court didn't say anything about the second amendment for about a century. they mentioned it briefly in a ruling in 1876 and that was u.s. versus cruickshank, which rose out of the horrible massacre, one of the worst in the reconstruction. , with the whole war, blacks had tried to defend themselves in louisiana and were attacked by white crowds and the federal government attempted to prosecute the attackers on the grounds that they had deprived the blacks who were killed -- >> host: mna type issue. >> guest: didn't find that was the case. at that time we don't see any racial motivation at all to deprive blacks of their very specifically. in a kind of a side, the ruling said
in a town like dodge city is a good example. there were laws against that. you had to depart with your arms. if you with a cowboy coming in from the plains, there was a place to store your pistol if you had one. >> host: that doesn't fit with the way people think about it. >> guest: no. this is, of course, in settlements, not in the wild prairie, but, you know, they were like towns everywhere today. you need a little law and order in town, and that's hard to keep up with everyone has a pistol. >> host: a shootout at okay corral. >> guest: it started because they had a firearm carried around town, and incidentally, the understanding of what gun rights were for start in the 19th century and particularly, in the south. in the early 19th century, there was a big problem with duals between gentlemen, obviously, the most famous is aaron burr and alexander hamilton, but dueling was popular, but frowned upon and could be prosecuted. burr had to move around to avoid being prosecuted. >> host: vice president burr actually. >> guest: was a vice president. but one of the means that people who insisted
, for in new york city for example where there are 5000 of them. do you ever hear about how they interact with students and are there ever problems and with school safety officers actually serving as bullies themselves? >> guest: i am sure there are instances. you know, there are instances where teachers are found to be bullying students. i think absolutely those things happen and i think we don't want to have officers in our schools schools -- we want officers in our schools in a situation where they are needed to keep kids safe or to provide some kind of helpful direction that helps them resolve things before they get to a point where they are 18 years old and they have a record that can really damage them for life. >> host: how do you inoculate the officers and the teachers for that matter against being part of the problem? what is important for them by way of training to ensure that they have the tools and also that they are accountable for protecting the kids and helping them? >> guest: i think it's the same thing, comes down to what happens in the building where all of the adults ta
of new york city when he was teaching he would identify kids who were at risk and bring them into his classroom and ask his class to support them and work with them. it seemed like a kind of common sense but a brilliant approach to make everybody part of the solution. >> guest: absolutely. one of the things we see often with kids who have special needs or have a learning disability or autism so often the philosophy is to help give them tools to not be targeted or to make them less likely to be targeted. >> host: like avoiding a different situations? >> guest: different areas of school but we know kids are vulnerable and and there is little supervision but i think that is only one piece of the puzzle. >> host: it's a little bit of a cop-out, right? >> guest: if the had the disabilities that made them more likely to be bullied is the social disability, so i think that one of the things we have to do a better job of, and i think that the essay speaks to this is how do you educate the entire community about disability like autism or learning disabilities so that it's not up to the person
where you have police officers stationed in the school, i mean, in new york city, for example, there are 5,000 of them -- >> guest: right. >> host: do you ever hear about, um, how they interact with students? and are there ever problems with school safety officers actually being sort of bullies themselves? >> guest: i'm sure there are instances, you know, there are instances where teachers are, um, found to be bullying and harassing their students. >> host: uh-huh. >> guest: i think that, absolutely, those things happen. and i think that we don't want to have officers in our schools to intimidate kids. .. >> i think it's the same thing that comes down to what happens in a building where all of the adult teak is seriously and it's about culture. it's not about were not going to do the site behaviors because those are holy. it's a connect the overall picture of the culture and climate in the school and one of the things is that strong leadership really start to talk that principle have a great deal of influence over how all of the adults in their building treat not only the kids
to be confident and hopeful, and i was impressed by the story in the book about the president in new york city of a school who identify kids who were at risk and he brought them into his classroom and he asked his class to support them. to work with them. it seemed like a commonsense but brilliant approach to making everybody part of the solution. >> guest: absolutely. one of the things we see with kids that have special needs or learning disabilities or autism, so often we need to help give those kits tools to not be targeted or to make them less likely to be targeted. i think avoiding certain situations can help. >> host: we know that kids are vulnerable. >> guest: these kids have the social skills, so many individuals, it is social disability to be in that situation. to be a bully. i think that it comes down to how you educate the entire community about disabilities like autism so that it's not up to the person who is struggling to keep up or who is struggling in this social the social hierarchy, to make sure that everyone else knows that this is what autism looks like. this is why autism -
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